Hombre

Hombre

DVD - 2002
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A white man raised as an Apache faces confrontation with society.

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jimg2000
Mar 18, 2017

Of course it is dated as it was released in 1967, half a century ago: a Western of old frontier in times of oppressed Native Americans, self-righteous bigots, gunslingers, Mexican bandits, Stagecoach ride and Paul Newman at his prime: Hud 1963, Harper 1966, Cool Hand Luke 1967, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 1969 ... They don't make "dated" films like the Hombre anymore. Besides the tense slow-burn action drama, marvelous acting and human ethics in different social settings, nice to see those bygone 1960's picturesque locations on HD DVD. Looks like it is time to hit the Elmore 1961 book to see what the film had missed.

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akirakato
Jun 27, 2016

This is a 1967 revisionist western directed by Martin Ritt, based on the novel of the same name by Elmore Leonard.
In late 19th-century Arizona, an Apache-raised white man, John Russell, faces prejudice in the white world after he returns for his inheritance upon his father's death.
Deciding to sell the house in order to buy a herd of horses, Russell ends up riding a stagecoach.
Riding with Russel are Indian agent Professor Alexander Favor, his aristocratic wife Audra and the crude Cicero Grimes.
Upon discovering that John Russell is of Apache background, Professor Favor requests that Russell ride up top with driver Henry Mendez.
The stagecoach is robbed by a gang led by Grimes, who knew that Dr. Favor had been carrying money that he stole from the very Apaches whom Russell grew up with.
Grimes rides off, taking Mrs. Favor as a hostage.
Russell's instincts to protect the group clash with their morality and desire to save the Favors, especially when Grimes and his remaining gang offer to trade Mrs. Favor for the money.
This film is one of several films in the 1960s portraying the situation of the Native Americans in a different way from what had previously been seen in westerns.
Racism against Indians and their exploitation are depicted.

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RichardPaul
Jul 26, 2013

Hombre ---- (DVD - c - 2002) I loved seeng this again in color. Have only viewed in black and white. Untill a few days ago. ---- If you have the time, pick it up! ---- Elmore Leonard wrote this period Book/Movie. ---- Enjoy! ---- RichardPaul (finished 7- 22 - 13)

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djx
Jun 27, 2013

"average dated western" THIS IS NOT! Elmore Leonards early pulp western is flawlessly brought to life on the big screen by director Martin Ritt & an all star cast. If you've seen it already, watch it again...it's perfect, period. Killer dialog throughout, especially Newman's lines: "How are you gonna get back down that hill?" is classic. By far my favorite western. 4 /4 stars

lasertravis Oct 07, 2011

An average dated western with colorful characters. Newman does well as a quiet mannered bad mamma jamma raised by apaches.

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jimg2000
Mar 18, 2017

All right. Somebody want to go down there, go ahead. Just one thing... You walk down there, you're not going to walk back. You leave the bag and start up with the woman, they're gonna kill both of you.
-You're saying that so nobody will take the money and try.
They'll kill both of you. That's why I'm saying it. That's your wife down there. You going to cut her loose? Mendez, you going to save her? Billy Lee What's-your-last-name, you going to go down there? This one won't. That's his woman, but he won't do it. He doesn't care enough about his own woman, but maybe somebody else does. But maybe somebody else does. All right. You, lady. You worry about his wife
more than he does. Go on down there, cut her loose, start back up again, get shot in the back... or in front, if the Mexican by the trough does it. In the back or in the front, one way or the other.
-Just give me your knife. That's all I want from you.
You want a lot more than that from me, lady.

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jimg2000
Mar 18, 2017

Moral grounds part 1 of 2:

We have to give them that money. I think you know that.
-Like you had to give that one water, huh?
People help each other.
-People kill each other, too. I've seen that. You're going to see some more.
If you want to say that it's my fault we're stuck up here, go ahead.
-No. What I want to know is why you helped.
Because he needed it, just like that woman needs it. It's not up to us to decide whether she deserves
to live or not.
-We only help, huh?
Do we have another choice?
-Not help.
Just let her die?
-That's up to Grimes.
You mean, you'd sacrifice her life for that money? Is that what you're saying?
-You go down there, and you ask that lady what she thinks of life. Ask her what life is worth to those Indians in San Carlos when they run out of meat.

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jimg2000
Mar 18, 2017

Moral grounds part 2 of 2:

But she didn't take the money. Xxyyzzr did.
-She said, "Those dirty Indians eat dog," that she couldn't eat dog no matter how hungry she got. Ask her if she'd eat dog now.
I don't know what your gripe is against the world.
-Maybe you got a real one. Lady, up there in those mountains, there's a whole people who have lost everything. They don't have a place left to spread their blankets. They've been insulted, diseased, made drunk and foolish. Now, you call the men who did that Christians, and you trust them. I know them as white men, and I don't.
Russell, if nobody ever lifted a finger until people were deserving, the whole world would go to hell. We better deal with each other out of need and forget merit, because none of us have too much of that... not me, not you, not anybody.
-If it bothers you, why talk about it?

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jimg2000
Mar 18, 2017

There's something else...the money.
-What about it? Maybe it's you who will have to take it up to San Carlos after, but that's easy, huh?
I thought you were keeping it for yourself.
-Think what you want to think. That's up to you.
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He doesn't remember we left water behind. We have to tell him.
-You don't do anything.
What do you mean we don't do anything? Take a look at him. He's dying of thirst.
-What did you think would happen? You just thought you'd never see him again, so yesterday, it was all right, huh?
No. I should have said something yesterday. I'm saying it now.
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You will learn something about white people... they stick together.
-They better.

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jimg2000
Mar 18, 2017

IMDb has many quotes as these two:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061770/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Jessie: And we got him a marble headstone. It had his name on it, and underneath, we had them put, "In the Fullness of His Years." Is that all right with you?
John Russell: I'll settle for that. I'm not on the slab.
Jessie: Well, what do you figure yours is going to read?
John Russell: "Shot Dead," probably.
Jessie: Don't people take to you, Mr. Russell?
John Russell: It only takes one who doesn't.
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John Russell: The dead are dead. You ought to bury them.
Jessie: I'm sure that's good advice. Trouble is, Mr. Russell, I think you feel the same way about the living.

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Jul 26, 2013

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